Science and Religion

Published: 3 years, 3 months ago (Nov 2, 2008) in Random
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Rizwana brought up an interesting topic to write about – to what extent, if any, do science and religion mix with each other? Hardcore scientists tend to frown upon the ambiguities inherent to religion. They prefer more concrete evidence to support the existence of a higher being; however, being a science major myself, I find there to be an interesting harmony between the two.

Here’s my analysis:

God creates science —> Science creates Man —> Man creates religion —> Religion explains God.

This model is a prime example of how the ends justify the means and is consistent with my previously mentioned agnosticism. No religion can lay claim to being “correct” (no reproducible evidence has been obtained); however, nothing scientific has disproven religion either. It’s kind of a stand still in which the realms of science and religion are interdependent on each other. How can science exist if nothing put it into motion? How can religion exist if the products of science didn’t have the mental capacity to comprehend it? If you ask me, it’s a cyclic chain.

I know I’m treading on thin ice by discussing religion, but it really makes for some of the most interesting and rewarding learning opportunities. :-)

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10 Responses to “Science and Religion”
  1. Rizwana
    Published: 3 years, 3 months ago

    LOVE IT!

    Yay Rishi!

    I loveeee your analysis!!

  2. Rizwana
    Published: 3 years, 3 months ago

    Rishi! I like your collage you put up! Seeing the Cross and Hindu Diety statues reminds me of, Om Shanti Om! Shahrukh Khan wears this Om necklace that has a Cross as well! Its pretty nifty I say!

    They sell them on ebay!

    Sorry, Im a FOB!

  3. fyfy vay
    Published: 3 years, 3 months ago

    I see it as this way. God create man. God gave man knowledge to create religion and science. Because science is understanding the nature of God creation (meiosis ), and religion is understanding God himself. There is nothing written is science book that contradict that. Yes if we are Muslim, Jewish, and Christian we believe that God create the world in seven days, but seven days to God is a million year to us. So evolution MIGHT occur in between. Some people said evolution is God ways to man perfections. Science is consisting on many fields: biology, chemistry, physic, and etc. How come we only focus on evolution? That is because it is in our imperfect human nature to want to find something controversial to debate about. We are more alike than we are different. As I said we use one little difference to separate us. Back on the topic of science, I do think science is a way of understanding God creation because you must understand God creation in order to understand how to maintain it because it is our duty to do so. You must how the body works in order to preserve it and prevent it from further destruction. God gave man knowledge in science behind STD in order for man to stay celibate or at least not sleeping around. Science also provides medicines that help heal the sick, God give this to man so man will not die of from certain disease. I think science is just a tool God gave man the knowledge to use to preserve his most price creation.

  4. Rizwana
    Published: 3 years, 3 months ago

    Rishi when will your next blog be up?

    I’m excited already!

  5. Stefan Mai
    Published: 3 years, 3 months ago

    I think science, when it points out the frailty of human reason. And religion, when it shows us our profound lack of understanding of the divine both form this nebulous foundation for a deeper connection with God. I don’t know if we can truly connect with God unless we realize our smallness, and I feel as though making too many assertions religiously forces us into a precarious position where we might feel bigger and mightier than we truly are, thus insulating ourselves from coming to any real conclusions about God.

  6. Oscar
    Published: 3 years, 3 months ago

    Emotions are chemically-based. So “knowing” God is chemically-based. Chemical reactions in the mind can be unpredictable at times. Therefore, our “understanding” of God is due to an avalanche of chemicals that react differently from person to person. I also like what “Stefan Mai” says.

  7. Adam
    Published: 3 years, 3 months ago

    But, if you assert that all knowledge of religion is questionable, or that all of these possibilities merely fall under “chemically active particles with their matching enzymes, etc.,” then what are you truly mandating of knowledge itself or the divine?

    One can not “know God” in any sense? Is there not morality through a sense of profound Justice, Mercy, Compassion, and Origin in itself-God creates man to be with God?(Not to mention very Christian specific moral grounds and understandings) In order to “know God,” one must at least have an idea of where God must lie, through character or ability. Why else would one worship Adonai, if there is not the sense that he is “all-powerful” versus a distinct despair of these characteristics in true essence? (For instance, what if it were told of God that he could not move mountains? Would people turn away?)

    As for chemical balancing for idea processes, what then constitutes an idea? Give me an understanding of this. How is the regulatory functioning of my brain through critical number crunching fundamentally proliferated in distinction to my idea that God is being seen by my eyes, a Theophany, or even that God is merely showing my person a good time, though not necessarily “favor?” Furthermore, if thoughts are merely the production of chemical processes, then are my dreams thoughts? Is there any true knowledge in the beginning? Can these seemingly random strains of particles come forth repeatedly in the Exact quantities, meaning that I dwell on the same exact thought, not consecutively, but perhaps once a day, or in a daily ritual for some religious cases? Is it truly possible to obtain and retain memory, if in fact these random chemical happenings simply occur with will of conscious and cellular motivations? Also, this brings about the question, does the fact that this creates a sense of conditionality to my memory and thoughts furthermore provide the answer to “If there is knowledge” by indicating that the randomness of quantum mechanics suggests these concepts may be non-fixed, obselete, or contradictory to current theory?

    I have more, but that is for later, and possibly a personal talk.

  8. Adam
    Published: 3 years, 3 months ago

    I do have some to say about the specifics of different religions-why I have seen Christianity to be my only possible choice, actually; however, I notice that this particular blog’s purpose is to bring together Science and Religion(from the title and the text after), not Religions.

  9. Rishi
    Published: 3 years, 3 months ago

    It’s discussions like this which make controversial topics worthwhile! :-)

  10. Oscar
    Published: 3 years, 3 months ago

    I am glad you decided to join us, Adam! The way I see it, everything is random, but that is the thrill and beauty of nature. How can we get the “right amount” of chemicals and chemical reactions that make up all of our physiological and mental processes in both a random AND a constant (exact) way? I guess that is where God comes in. What is real and what is not? It is very hard to tell, I can only speculate. For example, one person is not necessarily the same person from day to day, even hour to hour. It is you in front of the mirror, but your random thought processes in your brain constantly change who you truly are. I think it is the sum off all these thought processes that make a person’s “unique” personality. It is not a constant. Man is the only animal in this planet that has complete self-awareness and can recognize himself in front of a mirror. If I were to give you an understanding of what an idea is, it would be from a science perspective, you would likely reject it based on your love of pure philosophy and your preconceived notion of Christianity. Dreams are thoughts because your mind never truly rests while you “sleep”. I see dreams as two possibilities: 1. A way to break the barrier of time and extend our subconscious to parallel realities and/or 2. A way for the mind to “trash” thoughts, akin to cleaning up a computer’s hard drive. For the latter, one could say that your mind had enough “materials” to make memories, but that there were excess building materials. Similar to when there are excess bricks for a house. All I know is that science-based processes are what makes us who we are. God must have a sense of humor to roll the dice in whatever way he chooses, leaving us to wonder why we wonder as He is amused by our futility of trying to fit the infininte into our finite minds. This of course, is another humble opinion. Great post, Adam.

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