Baylor Med’s 2010 Rankings

According to the recently updated US News and World Report medical school rankings, there’s a new #1 medical school in Texas – UT Southwestern in Dallas. I was expecting Baylor Med’s rank to fall in 2010 but never anticipated it to regress to this degree.

I’ve received e-mails from people over the block (mostly current applicants) with regards to BCM’s future as a medical school. Some are speculating that the medical school and graduate school will split and be sold off to other institutions. Others are saying that the medical program will be abandoned entirely. While these sentiments may be a product of the Houston media, I personally feel they’re flat-out wrong. Nevertheless, it’s interesting to see how the general public is responding to Baylor College of Medicine.

As far as the new rankings, BCM is #33 in primary care and #24 in research (link to info). This is a pretty drastic drop from #17 in both primary care and research in 2009, but in all fairness, I think it can be ascribed, in part, to the hype of the Rice-Baylor Med merger (and other associated talks… like with Baylor University in Waco) falling through.

Dr. Butler, our interim president, was kind enough to share his views regarding the new ranks via an e-mail this morning. Here’s a section I found very interesting:

For the survey that was completed for last year’s ranking (2009), Baylor changed its reporting on NIH research dollars to include only the research activity in its primary affiliated hospitals. Consequently, we did not include NIH funding that M.D. Anderson Hospital receives which had been included through 2008. This resulted in a substantial decrease in the dollars reported in that category, but did not significantly change the college’s overall ranking last year because of the two-year average. This year, the change in the NIH research activity had a more significant impact. Based on our current NIH research grants, we will have much stronger numbers to submit for next year’s U.S. News survey.

This year’s U.S. News ranking does not measure what has been occurring in recent months as we faced a leadership change and financial difficulties. We have confronted those issues head on and I can assure you that BCM’s decline in this year’s U.S. News rankings does not reflect a decline in the quality of education. It is important that we remain focused on our plan for the future, share positive messages with our colleagues around the country, and not let this temporary fall in a listing cloud our thinking.

If U.S. News would factor in student success, you would see Baylor College of Medicine at or near the top based on the success of our students using any of a number of criteria including their pass rate on the U.S. Medical Licensing Exam (USMLE) and their selection for residency training that I recently reported. In fact, it is important to note that our reputation score by residency program directors in the U.S. News survey rose from 3.8 in 2006 to 4.0 for the last two years, which indicates that BCM graduates are excelling in their residency training programs. The true measure of excellence of any medical school is in the achievements of its students.

I couldn’t agree more, Dr. Butler.

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26 Comments
  1. nand mehta says

    You have to spend twice a much if go out of state. Ranking doesnt necesarily give you a betetr educations. Once one become doctor no patient ever ask where did you go to medical school ?

    1. Rishi says

      I’m going to humbly disagree with your first statement, Nand. BCM is the cheapest, private medical school in the country. Some of my classmates from California noted that their in-state tuition was MORE expensive than their out-of-state tuition at BCM (especially coupled with the fact that Houston has a much lower cost of living compared to California).

      While it’s true that patients rarely care about what medical school their physician attended, that doesn’t change the fact that the quality of medical training and research (which is often NOT reflected in rankings) DOES make a huge difference in the healthcare provider.

  2. TXstudent says

    Interesting article, just ran into it. I noticed you posted this in 2010, and now the 2013 rankings show BCM and UTSW as tied, and both are not top 20. Perhaps I won’t apply in TX? Do you think TX schools have something special over other schools that should keep me here?

  3. UTSWgrad says

    I’m glad this thread is veering back into the right direction. As someone who attended UT Southwestern, it’s fairly amusing to read people bickering over issues that are largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Some points I wanted to make:

    1- I think it’s funny that UTSW is thought of as the school of BCM rejects. The truth is, though many of us probably are, I’ve met MANY here who got into schools more prestigious or higher-ranking than Baylor but chose Dallas for various reasons (atmosphere, location, research, faculty, medicine program, finances, etc). So it’s rather silly that we’re the “school of Baylor rejects” when many of us were good enough to nab acceptances to schools more competitive than Baylor anyway. BTW, whoever is claiming we are overly competitive with Baylor sounds ridiculous. Yes, many here would rather have gone there (I chose not to apply there – got accepted to Yale/Duke/Mayo but preferred UTSW), but after starting med school I can’t think of anyone who really cares. Besides, it’s not like administration and students at the other Texas schools haven’t been routinely bashing Southwestern, in particularly at applicant interviewee days. Kind of shameful if you think about it.

    2- The majority of students at UTSW actually *like* being here. Yes there is an extremely vocal minority that hates being here (check out the UTSW hate group on Facebook – however keep in mind many joined it as a joke), and unfortunately some of that is an attitude that has trickled down from previous classes that had it much worse than the students do now. Because of student overreaction to the grading/testing policy changes implemented in 2005, it’s almost part of UTSW culture to “act” bitter and jaded, and students here like to perpetuate a mythology of a pressure-cooker environment (it sounds better to say you survived it) when in reality school here is nothing like that. But maybe it’s nice to attend a school falsely reputed to be hardcore – it certainly helped when I was on the residency interview trail years ago. But I do think as a whole, BCM students are probably the happier ones but not by much so.

    3- Baylor is wonderful in that it allows you flexibility to explore your options. You can do so at UTSW for sure, but you can maybe spend 1-2 months on electives before deciding on a career choice. Because of this you see a greater proportion of BCM students go into competitive specialties (derm, ENT, rads for example). Because of the primary care emphasis at UTSW, you see many go into medicine, peds, and family here though the competitive specialties are all very well-represented too. I believe the graduating class this year sent many students into competitive specialties like plastics, ENT, rad onc, orthopedics, derm to brand-name programs and many were students who weren’t necessarily AOA/top quartile.

    In the end, I really don’t think there is much of a difference in the quality of doctor you’ll turn out to be. I do believe, however, from experience that you enter residency better prepared if you attended UT Southwestern than Baylor, though everyone catches up to you quick. Good luck to everyone choosing medical school programs.

    1. UTSW MS2 says

      This is a pretty late comment I suppose since nothing has been posted on this thread in 7 months but after reading these comments I felt like I had to say something. I was an OOS applicant and I was accepted to both schools. I decided on UTSW even when UTSW was “lower” in rank. The truth is that I love my school and I am sure I would have been happy at Baylor also. I remember looking at residency directors’/peer assessment scores (just as the Baylor article states is appropriate) as well as the prestige of the 2 schools IM and surgery departments (based upon rank threads in SDN), and in all 4 categories UTSW is slightly higher (about as much difference as Baylor was in USNWR rankings).

      So I asked myself, do I want to look good to the public or the medical community. This of course is stupid logic because they are so close in both you are really splittling hairs. I like to compare it to looking at Illinois. University of Chicago is ranked higher and is slightly objectively better(UTSW) but every lay person in that state shits themselves if you say you go to medical school at Northwestern(Baylor). Is Northwestern/Baylor really worse than UChic/UTSW? Not really.

      I would say roughly 1/3 of my class is ‘Baylor rejects’. I would say the remaining 2/3 got into either Baylor or somewhere ‘more competitive’. We have 230 students so 1/3 is enough students to make up half the Baylor class. I am sure there feels like there is a decent amount of complaining from Dallas but this is gone now. Also, there is a decent amount of arguing about how competitive UTSW is. Keep in mind we have to have 230 students in our class by law which skews us down. MY class average MCAT was 33.7, Harvard is 34.5, if you take the top 120 people in our class (average medical class size) our MCAT average is 35.5. Maybe this means nothing but at least take these things into consideration before comparing these 2 schools.

      1. Rishi says

        Maybe this means nothing but at least take these things into consideration before comparing these 2 schools.

        I have to disagree! Your comment is much appreciated! 🙂 Both schools are undoubtedly amazing with their respective reputations, curricula, board scores, matches, etc. If anything, a lot more people who got into both UTSW and BCM picked UTSW this past application cycle because of BCM’s well publicized “shakiness.” Either way, it’s great for the state of Texas that we’re attracting great students from all over the country.

        Thanks so much for taking the time to share your insight!

  4. BCMMSIII says

    First off SickofSouthwestern, there are so many non sequiturs and tangents in your posts, but since you are only a premed, I’ll give you a break. Don’t take it personally, but reread some of your posts and you’ll see it. Rishi’s blog is not SDN – another place where premeds carp as if they have experienced medical school already.

    Soon enough, you’ll also be in medical school and see exactly what’s important in the medical school experience and what isn’t.

    I’m an MS-3 at Baylor College of Medicine. I am a Texas Resident (which obviously makes a difference for me with respect to finances vs. attending an out-of-state school). I got into all the Texas Schools.

    Two things I will point out:

    1) Whenever medical schools are ranked, you should probably look at what exactly goes into that ranking and how much it is weighted. The rankings ALREADY take into account aspects which current students and prospective students may be interested in: Peer Assessment Score, Assessment Score by Residency Directors, as well as Student Selectivity. These 3 things ALONE are 60% of the total score. Mean MCAT Score, Mean Undergraduate GPA, Acceptance Rate, Faculty Resources are also factored in as well. So considering these are research rankings, student important aspects are also hugely included as well, and it would be inaccurate to say that it’s only research that is taken into account.

    You can see the description of how USWNR defines each of the above from UTSWStud’s posted link.

    2) The affiliated institutions are separate from the medical school, in the grand scheme of things. Usually when a medical school gets started up, it’s the medical school administration going to local hospitals and care centers for an affiliation agreement so that students are able to rotate on certain required clerkship rotations. While yes, Texas Children’s is ranked higher than Children’s Medical Center in Dallas, that doesn’t mean that this is a reflection of Baylor College of Medicine. It is a teaching hospital for Baylor. Also, it’s really irrelevant, esp. if you’re not going into Pediatrics. As mentioned before, since M.D. Anderson Cancer Center has the words, University of Texas as part of the name, for all intents and purposes, NIH funding tabulation would naturally be counted as part of UT-Houston’s score not Baylor College of Medicine. A drop of 7 spots from #17 to #24 wouldn’t account for the entire drop. Let’s face it – Baylor has fallen in hard times and it goes back to the split with Methodist originally. Is it going to last forever? No. Eventually, the debt will be paid off, and as posted by UTSWStud above, BCM is laying off people to get us out of the red.

    Is Baylor in trouble right now? Yes, it is without a doubt, and anything to the contrary is denial. These next few years, will be very critical to see if we can pull ourselves out of it. That is what is up in the air. If we can’t pull ourselves out of the red, nothing else really matters, bc people want to go to an institution that is financially sound – especially in this economy. There is a reason why the Rice deal fell through.

    But right now, let’s just take the mature route, and give credit where and when credit is due. If Baylor was still #10, like it was several years ago, our school would be gloating. If the other side “wins”, we talk about how flawed the ranking system is, and that student achievement should be measured (when actually it already is – so I guess it should make up more than 60% of the total score).

    I think Moshe Vardi, who has posted on Rishi’s Blog, really puts things into perspective, with his public lecture video at the bottom: http://www.cs.rice.edu/~vardi/merger/. It just shows that we need to work harder during this trying time for Baylor.

  5. EBrk2013 says

    all this vicious arguing is rather silly. can’t we all just learn to get along? letting what was supposed to be an informative, reliable explanation of bcm’s status devolve into a full-blown feud is childish and loses sight of what’s really important: we’re all going to be helping ppl and the patient’s all-around well-being is the ultimate goal. don’t get me wrong; competition b/t medical institutions is an unmistakable benefit to society but you can’t let your egos get the better of you and start yelling at each other like some idiots in a sports bar during a heated rivalry game. i also feel terrible for rishi, who’s probably squirming uncomfortably in his seat right now after reading these comments (btw, rishi, i’m a fan, LOL!)

    as for the “rivalry” b/t bcm and utsw, here’s my two cents –
    both sides have arguments that r both accurate and inaccurate so i’m gonna make two points for each school to dispel some of the stuff i’ve been reading.

    for those who mistakenly typecast utsw students as ultra competitive and fosters a gunner atmosphere: have you been a student here? do you know? oh? you know, because you have friends that go there? have you ever heard of SAMPLING BIAS? i admit, i believed those rumors before i started school here (yes, i am a utsw student, shock and awe), but if anything, the atmosphere is the EXACT OPPOSITE. i constantly have to go through my inbox and delete emails from classmates who send everyone websites and material that can help us learn the material. how is that gunner/competitive? what about the guys and gals in my class who r acing their exams and still find the time to encourage those who r having a hard time?

    as for the rep. that utsw is a collection of baylor rejects, there is some truth to that. but here’s the twist (yeah, i was surprised by this too) – there are a lot of kids here who didn’t even have bcm in their sights…the schools they were looking at were harvard, duke, stanford, ucsf, etc. one of my friends here decided b/t utsw and duke. bcm wasn’t even in the picture. another classmate of mine decided to go here instead of pitt. i hosted a kid from texas for ms0 wkend who had gotten into here, stanford, washU, and i think hopkins and as i recall, he said he wasn’t too high on bcm (this was before the rankings came out). this is just a taste of the calibre of students here and there’s really no reason to be competitive with bcm except maybe for state bragging rights. so please don’t put dwn our school. historically, we started out as “the school that replaced bcm in dallas” but the faculty and students here worked hard to change that and we don’t deserve this type of disrespect.

    as for the bcm rumors- if i had a penny for every person who told me bcm’s in trouble, god i’d quit med school and just fund/oversee biomed research and have endowed chairs named after me, LOL!!! this whole “wow, bcm isn’t as good a med school as it used to be” business is all hogwash. BCM IS STILL FRIGGIN AWESOME!!! and that’s not gonna change. med students should not at all be concerned about this and premeds shouldn’t be either. one of my best friends goes there and the only downer being a student there is the recent rankings that came up (imagine having to field questions/concerns from family/friends/pre-meds about the rankings REPEATEDLY). i’ve always felt the rankings should be used as a rather general assessment of a medical school, not an end-all. there’s also a troubling idea going around that bcm won’t recover from this financial slump. IT WILL. it wouldn’t be a standout place if it didn’t. most sensible ppl will understand that the occasional poor administration decision combined with one of the greatest economic downturn’s in american history since 1929 = slump! u think bcm’s not gonna come back once it get’s a chance at making a few bucks from boom phase of the economic boom/bust cycle?

    last but not least, the idea that p/f will make students lazy is just darn silly. are yale students lazy? are mayo students lazy? what about uchicago? what about harvard? students who have made it this far and into med school were selected in part because of their drive to succeed. more importantly, it’s hard to imagine that a bunch of overachieving kids wouldn’t take something as important as the USMLEs seriously. so i find it hard to believe that the quality of bcm students will dip in terms of board scores. even if bcm nets less of the super talented kids from out-of-state, i’m not sure if that’ll matter so much in the long run. it’s a private institution for sure but it admits no less than 70-80% texas residents. that sounds like a private place with a public school feel to me.

    i’ve left out some stuff but there’s how i feel. yall play nice now.

  6. utswmed says

    im an ms3 at utsw. i love my school but the thing is people who want to stay in texas have always chosen bcm over utsw and will continue do so. the curriculum and facilities and atmosphere are just better at bcm, cant beat the 1.5 year plan. I as well as almost every one of my classmates went to utsw after we didnt get into bcm. that will continue to occur for TEXAS kids. the way this hurts bcm is in attracting out of state applicants who apply based on usnwr, i will admit that, but when it comes down to it, bcm will always win over utsw in the end. i hate to say it because i love my school but had i gotten into bcm i would have gone.

    1. UTSWStud says

      Please don’t generalize your situation to other people who’ve attended UTSW. Anecdotes of people who wanted to attend BCM do not constitute a trend. There were tons of people in my class who chose UTSW over BCM for various reasons – NIH and graduate research funding, happen to live in Dallas, strength of match lists and fellowship lists of UTSW residencies, etc.

      While yes, now Baylor has strict Pass/Fail vs. UTSW is letter graded (except for the first semester now), this will probably attract those who may want to slack and just aim for Pass (although Rishi has said, for AOA purposes they still go based on the 5 interval system) or those who want to just go to a private labeled institution (even though BCM does receive some state funding). Texans also look at USWNR rankings as well and decide accordingly as these also do affect residency program directors minds as well.

  7. FutureMD says

    Sorry to burst your bubble UTSWStud, but I think you just proved SickOfSouthwestern’s point that UTSW students overly compete with Baylor.

    1. UTSWStud says

      It has nothing to do with competition, FutureMD, it has to do with actual objective measurable data.

      Just saying lines like, “at or near the top based on the success of our students using any of a number of criteria including their pass rate on the U.S. Medical Licensing Exam (USMLE) and their selection for residency training that I recently reported,” might make you feel all warm, cuddly, and special inside but it doesn’t stand up to actual facts and data, esp. when it doesn’t make sense with regards to research rankings. I realize that letter to Baylor faculty and students is more a somber pep talk type letter, but assertions have to be made with facts actually backing them up. Hopefully as a “Future MD”, you will learn that sooner rather than later.

  8. MSI UT Southwestern says

    I am incredibly grateful to be studying medicine here in Dallas. It has been the best experience of my life.

    But I am greatly disappointed by the comments above. It sounds as if these two school are at war, over something I don’t even understand.

    If Baylor’s ranking was a reflection of its students, it would be much higher than it currently is. It is unfortunate that the financial downturn has had such an effect.

    Now, I understand that we don’t want misleading information to alter the opinions of others, but I am saddened by the tone of the discourse.

    We all need to become better. Think about what’s truly important. Leave the arguing to the politicians and focus on becoming the best physician that you can be.
    That’s all that should matter.

    1. SickOfSouthwestern says

      Let me start with apologizing for my name, I agree that it’s not appropriate! I’m just not a fan of UTSW, mainly because of the people I’ve met, BUT you are clearly an exception. I also agree that we are losing focus, but now I must prove “UTSWStud” wrong with “data and links” hahaha. And let me clarify something, my views are not coming from a Baylor Student (I’ll be going to Yale next year!!!!), so really there is no war between the two schools, just from “UTSWStud” (ranting USTW student) and “Matt” (who made the comparison in the first place). I like your comments though, thank you for helping me some good in UTSW! I am being sincere!

  9. UTSWStud says

    University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center–Dallas
    Research #20
    Primary Care #20

    Baylor College of Medicine
    Research #24
    Primary Care #33

    “This is a pretty drastic drop from #17 in both primary care and research in 2009, but in all fairness, I think it can be ascribed to the hype of the Rice-Baylor Med merger (and other associated talks… like with Baylor University in Waco) falling through.” — The media hype has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with USWNR’s methodology, which can be seen here: http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/best-medical-schools/2010/04/15/the-medical-school-rankings-methodology.html. If we’re going to start making excuses, let’s at least come up with some good ones, ones that people will actually believe.

    Baylor HAS in fact lost a lot of their prior NIH funding, for years now, which has caused them to drop precipitiously in ranking. I remember at one time Baylor used to be #10. Something Baylor used to trumpet ad nauseum. Now, “If U.S. News would factor in student success, you would see Baylor College of Medicine at or near the top based on the success of our students using any of a number of criteria including their pass rate on the U.S. Medical Licensing Exam (USMLE) and their selection for residency training that I recently reported. The true measure of excellence of any medical school is in the achievements of its students.” — Besides being blatantly false if you were to actually compare Baylor’s student achievement vs. UTSW or Baylor’s match list and UTSW’s match list, Baylor wants to include student achievement as a factor in RESEARCH rankings? Wow, conveniently feckless.

    His entire letter is nothing but C.Y.A. protocol and he knows it.

    Dr. Butler is obviously not too smart either. “Consequently, we did not include NIH funding that M.D. Anderson Hospital receives which had been included through 2008.” — M.D. Anderson Hospital, if anything, belongs to UT-Houston’s medical school, NOT Baylor College of Medicine, hence, the official name of the institution: University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=University+of+Texas+MD+Anderson+Cancer+Center&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=4ae40408a4c492d5

    “This year’s U.S. News ranking does not measure what has been occurring in recent months as we faced a leadership change and financial difficulties.” — Is he expecting pity or a bump up in rank? Your “leadership change and financial difficulties” are not other people’s problems and you will not get slack for that, ESPECIALLY since a lot of it is bc of your OWN DOING.

    “We have confronted those issues head on and I can assure you that BCM’s decline in this year’s U.S. News rankings does not reflect a decline in the quality of education. It is important that we remain focused on our plan for the future, share positive messages with our colleagues around the country, and not let this temporary fall in a listing cloud our thinking.” —- C.Y.A. protocol

    It’s about time that Baylor started taking personal responsibility for the mess they themselves created (long before you entered the school) which has now disastrously affected their ranking from #10 to now #24, and start trying to find solutions. I agree completely with Nand Mehta’s post above.

  10. SickOfSouthwestern says

    MY response (I’m not going to UTSW OR BAYLOR) Here we go:

    1. A new university hospital, huh? Well it’s about time…Zale Lipshy and St. Paul are SMALL…429 beds combined, right? Yea and at that price tag, combined with the fact they are still in the planning stage (“far into plans”), that would take 4-5 years to build, maybe longer? Not soon enough for those of us entering medical school this year.

    2. Do you know when construction on Parkland is expected to be finished? 2014!!! Again not soon enough for premeds entering medical school this year. And I read in the Dallas Morning News that they have no clue when its expected to open (2014 is when it will be finished)…so it may take even longer.

    ***This point drives me CRAZY…for years Southwestern has been saying that there is going to be a “new” Parkland. WHEN???? All talk and no show! They need to quit advertising something that medical school students won’t be able to use for years to come! UGHHHH

    3. Children’s Hospital in Dallas is nowhere near Texas Children’s Hospital in Houston, of which Baylor has strong ties with. Look it up!

    4. Baylor already has one (http://cancercenters.cancer.gov/cancer_centers/cancer-centers-list.html#TX) and M.D. Anderson next door does as well! So Baylor students have it better…yet again!

    Here is the deal: people need to quit dogging on Baylor. You know it’s always Southwestern students that compete with Baylor. Can you guys get over not getting into Baylor?!?! I’m not even going to Baylor and am sick of hearing about Southwestern students compare themselves with Baylor! Baylor has more resources for medical students than Southwestern EVER will…thats why they are situated in the Texas Medical Center AKA the world’s LARGEST medical complex! Think about all the opportunities! Baylor has so many more connections with GREAT facilities than Southwestern.

    If I were going to go to school in Texas it would be Baylor HANDS DOWN!!! There is NO comparison…regardless of what that third-rate magazine has to say!

    Why do I know so much? I live in Dallas and hear people go on and on about Southwestern!!!!!!!!! Had to get it off my chest.

    1. UTSWStud says

      “Why do I know so much? I live in Dallas and hear people go on and on about Southwestern!!!!!!!!! Had to get it off my chest.” — So in other words, you’re ranting without any sound logic or facts to back it up. Thank you for stating your motives, as you don’t really know what you’re talking about.

      1. SickOfSouthwestern says

        I did use logic and facts. Check the links, dates and information above and you will find that I am correct in every aspect. Sure I gave my opinion as well, that’s why it says “speak your mind.” And for the record I didn’t have to state my motives, since you can obviously (well you didn’t) tell from my user-name. Honestly, you are giving UTSW an even worse name with your comments and ranting below.

        1. UTSWStud says

          Your 1 link (which is an outdated one at that) has MD Anderson’s address and even has under it: “University of Texas” which PROVES that it belongs to UT-Houston’s medical school, not Baylor College of Medicine. It is not an institution of Baylor, so Baylor was correct not to send those numbers in.

          The Dan L. Duncan Cancer Center isn’t know for squat, esp. when you look at rankings which in which M.D. Anderson Cancer Center has been consistently the #1 cancer institution in the United States: http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/rankings/cancer

          UTSW has its own cancer center in Dallas, as well, what’s your point? They nearly all do.
          http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/simmons-cancer-center

          Your made up dates on Parkland with no actual links in your post to back it up, proves your credibility.

          Actually I could tell by your username, “SickOfSouthwestern” that you’re just being obnoxious hence your last lines of which you think are actual credentials of “Why do I know so much? I live in Dallas and hear people go on and on about Southwestern!!!!!!!!! Had to get it off my chest,” compared to Matt who said, “Why do I know so much? I almost chose to go there for residency, and my brother goes there.”

          If you’re going to make off the wall assertions, be prepared for people to tell you to back them up (if you can).

          1. SickOfSouthwestern says

            I can’t believe I’m doing this (especially since I’m going to YALE!!). But because you can’t look up stuff for yourself, I thought I would help one last time (I’m so nice!). I have to do this in two posts, because Rishi’s blog keeps thinking I’m sending spam. Here you go:

            1.http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/ut-southwestern-medical-center-6740343
            Read where it says: “429 beds”…in fact UTSW combined St. Paul and Zale Lipshy to get this number, but you should already know that “UTSWStud”

            2.http://www.wfaa.com/news/health/Parkland-Hospital-Site-Approved-82778577.html
            “will replace Dallas County’s overcrowded charity hospital in 2014.”

          2. SickOfSouthwestern says

            3.Dallas: http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/children%27s-med-cntr-of-dallas-6740935
            Houston: http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/texas-children%27s-hospital-6742018
            See all those single digits at Texas Children’s and not at Dallas Children’s

            4.Baylor’s Dan L. Duncan Cancer Center is an NCI-designated (which makes it better) cancer program, but UTSW’s is NOT!!! Look again!! And why is it outdated? Provide PROOF

            5.Just for kicks because you like links and proof, UTSW only has 4 affiliations (Dallas VA, Children’s, Parkland, and UTSW Hospital (St. Paul/Zale Lipshey). Baylor has 8 (that’s double UTSWStud). You will have to look it up because Rishi’s blog will think I’m spamming.

    2. Nick says

      I hope your major was not business either because you obviously have very little financial sense.

  11. Matt says

    One thing to point out regarding Dr. Butler’s statement:

    Most schools next year should be able to report an increase in NIH funding, considering an infusion of money through the recovery funds

    My brother is a student at UT Southwestern, and there was an article in their campus newspaper stating that, in Texas, they were the most successful in securing these funds

    Additionally, I really think UT Southwestern is going to be the big dog in Texas for years to come.

    1) They are far into plans on building their own new university hospital (construction to start next year, cost 1.6 to 1.8 billion). They already have two smaller hospitals and numerous ambulatory towers

    2) The city of Dallas has approved and secured funds to build a brand new Parkland (construction starts this fall, 1.2 – 1.4 billion)

    3) Their children’s hospital recently doubled in size

    4) They are finally going to have an NCI-designated cancer program – it has been OKd just waiting for all the paper work to be finalized

    I am not even going into their research enterprise – they are in the end stages of building a new giant 12 story research tower and have just finished building the first building of a biotech research park.

    Most importantly, they are financially sound!

    Why do I know so much? I almost chose to go there for residency, and my brother goes there.

  12. nand mehta says

    I hate to disagree but in short term lot of better student will chose other schools over Baylor. Once that happens US residency score and Exam score may fall as well.

    I am sure in time Baylor will be able to get it’s glory but for now future remains cloudy.

    BCM now needs a very strong leader and team who can attract lot of money, affiliations and build a strong base of permanent income and clinical care.

    1. Rishi says

      I couldn’t agree more Nand, but you’ll have to take my word that BCM has already made great strides in restructuring the administration. You’re right that some applicants may matriculate elsewhere (which may cause BCM’s board scores to dip), but the new pass/fail system could also make current students “lazy” about studying for the boards.

      BCM is in an interesting situation, but I’m confident that we’ll recover. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!

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